Hi All ......... A BIG Question.. Is there any way to get rid of those ABUSERS who keep opening abuse rooms everywhere every time and abuse good nicks in other rooms consequently. I sometime find hard when i don't get any other way to stop all these craps. Coz even they are banned in rooms, they use anti ban and anti bounce software by which they keep them self unbanned and unbounced automatically and enter room again in other nicks and abuse again. Daily they used to open abuse room in name of others in their local language which makes Red Admins job a difficult one to close the same. Even if the room is closed on higher approach to Red's, those nicks again keep opening the same abuse rooms again and again. I sometimes get afraid to think if this problem persists we would miss our friends over here on whom such rooms are being opened. So am here to appeal paltalk to open such complain cells where we can complain regarding such abusers, separately. Thanks.Wanna Know More About Me... Click Here ---> d company dubai

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thanks d company dubai for opening this topic. we are also facing the same problem. some nicks keep coming to our rooms and create nuisance and when we bounce them they open vulgar rooms in the name of our friends which is too abusive. many girls are getting hurt and leaving paltalk due to this. Indians are basically sentimental and get easily hurt when things like these keep happening. We expect paltalk to ban the nicks which open such abuse rooms and against whom complaints are given. if not by one user atleast they should investigate when bulk complaints are given against a particular user. its seen that is not the case and we in reverse are being told that ur nick may also be banned if someone complaints against u. ofcourse they can ban our nicks also provided they see we open an abuse room against anyone and hurt the feelings of anyone. they just say these things to keep us quiet. Already large number of our friends are thinking of leaving paltalk and going on to other messengers like beyluxe and inspeak because no matter what the environment there is, it would be definitely better than the one presently prevailing in the Indian category these days. please paltalk if u wish decent people to remain here take a stern action against abuse room openers. it would be very much appreciated.

There are lots of reasons, why paltalk lacking in it ? Success of these type of problem's solution is just working on combination. If we will complaint on matter of abusive room, lets feel the procedure -

* We have to provide category-subcategory, Room name, Room number.
* Supporter will match our id with room name, and if they found any alphabet change then they will not accept complaint. [Hindi/Urdu words can be same in meaning with different letters, or just change of any alphabet]
* After this they will search if Co-admin available,and they are very low in numbers.
* After Co-admin will find if any known language user available.

Its just as normal personal can think, may be there would be some more stairs of it.

Combination and just combination and just luck.

I have lots of questions fluctuating in my mind :-

Why paltalk not able to Increase scope, Why paltalk hesitating in decentralization of powers, Why Paltalk not utilizing their systems capabilities for to Restrict regular abusers, Why paltalk not able to Provide Language Translation system to their staff.

If paltalk would not work on these requirements then how these type of problems going to solve.

Lets see how Paltalk Going to Deal with These type of Problems :)Download Bug Report Ban

Paltalk has among its team helpers, volunteers etc people who belong to various countries, so they know different languages.
If some of them who are "on duty" just take a look on the list of rooms in category with which they are familiar on language base, they can easily recognise which rooms are obsessive, because this is very obvious and easy to recognize only from the name of the room.
Sometimes I see some of Paltalk support team in Help room, whom I 've heard to speak the language in which room category in the same time, some rooms are lying opened with obsessive names! I think it should be their duty to react automatically in such obvious situation - to close such rooms instantly and to warn the owner, or to inform their superiors who is in charge, to take some measures.

You know i have read many a good opinion on the subject of abusive rooms and users, question is what is abusive and why does it target certain ppl. Is it an ex gf , bf or friend? Is it a jealous room owner? All over the net you will find this type of behaviour from ppl, how does one minimize it, stop it or eliminate it? well question could be, if policing was enforced and every chatroom watched for what was said or done ,ect .... would you still feel as a free chatter? would you enjoy ur chat or would u worry about what u say about someone or even what u do, will u cam or worry what if someone see u doing something wrong on cam and it was an accident and poof there u go.........

As a volunteer i have come to realize that every complaint is dealt with the same respect, sometime the outcome is not what we would like it to be and we tend to dislike decisions made. Yes as a user because i have a name that u will find all over the world does not matter where i go i will see it. So will it be right for me to lay a complaint on everyone else on this planet because my name is being used as a room name, a bar name, a car name ect?

Yes the language issue can delay something but would you not like the same chance as others, what if sandy m 2u2 come and say sandy_M_4u2 make bad name for me, and without proof it is said u need to go? not right is it lol well that is the gr8 thing about Paltalk, everything is done with proof.

The help lobbies are always available for assitance, thus if u find ur language is none existant or even a lack of it in the help lobbies, I will say, offer ur time as a helper, help others , the scenario is the same when i became a helper, only 1 person spoke my language, now there is 2, increasing the helping. What do u think?What ever the mind accurately conceive and believe it can achieve

In Room Admin Can Control behavior of Users, But If any abusive room opened in someone's Name, then only that person can control that who opened.

Posted By: Simba (palsupport)All over the net you will find this type of behaviour from ppl

Paltalk Use to say we are different from Others, Could not we Imagine Positively Different Paltalk than Other Messengers ?

Posted By: Simba (palsupport)what if sandy m 2u2 come and say sandy_M_4u2 make bad name for me, and without proof it is said u need to go? not right is it lol well that is the gr8 thing about Paltalk, everything is done with proof.

I never said that Red Admins should believe on words of mouth. If in any Category Some abusive rooms are opened which may be locked, Room Owner Or any other admin will be in that room. Would it not be Proof ?

Posted By: Simba (palsupport)The help lobbies are always available for assitance, thus if u find ur language is none existant or even a lack of it in the help lobbies, I will say, offer ur time as a helper, help others , the scenario is the same when i became a helper, only 1 person spoke my language, now there is 2, increasing the helping. What do u think?

As i knew paltalk working from more than 10 years. Still paltalk not able to get all Languages Translator, would it be big deal if paltalk hire (1-2-3-4) full time Translator. Could not we think positive future with paltalk :)Download Bug Report Ban

Thanks Simba, For showing Interest and Initiative in solving this problem. My Suggestion is just against abusers, not against paltalk or not again any Red. We Should try our Work Positively in Right Direction without thinking the result of it. If this problem will solved as i cleared in my upper posts, it will let users not to shift to other messenger, It will Increase the strength of users, Users will like to invite their known family members, It will Increase the Premium Subscriptions because of Increasing new Users and Even Because of solving this problem.

1. Language Translator Can Make This Task Easy [May be Some Member of Paltalk Staff Can take Initiative or Interest in learning Basic Language OR Paltalk Can Hire Professional Translator.

2. Red Admins Can make run when they free in Related known language subcategory to see if there is any abusive rooms, If they found somethings are going wrong at extreme level by specific user, they should take action of forward issue to Co-admin for strict Action.

3. As i Know Room Closing matters use to handle by Co-admins, Co-admins are very low in Number, i saw lots of time support team saying that co-admins are not available or Away at this time. If there would be decentralization of Room Closing power(may be to specific Staff Members), then this matter would be some easy to handle.

I can provide more points too, but from these 3 points even 1 or 2 points can Improve Performance in solving these type of problems. I am not thinking and i should not think or suggest of making any huge change in paltalk to solve these type of problem, paltalk has big issues in front of them to solve.

Once again Thanks For Showing Interest in it :)Download Bug Report Ban

Hello Everybody Once Again..

Great feedback from all of you. Thanks for the support. Well Sandy your ideas relating the Language Translators is awesome. But the question is how we can get rid of such ABUSERS over here on Paltalk. I think there should be a meter scale for such Abusive rooms (Which Paltalk Red Admins Closes) and there should be a "Fixed Opening Limitation" on such abuse room from the same nick (same IP Address). If the same nick/same IP Address keeps opening the abuse room each and every time then he definitely deserves a punishment of any kind. Paltalk should have a note about such nicks/IP's, at the time of room closing (by Red Admins) which can help them to take a quick and correct decision in a right time.

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I have to add that very often I see rooms with offensive names laying on the list as G rated room, so anyone who understand the specific language can understand the meaning of their names. Who will be in charge to close such rooms and/or to warn the owner of the room or the admin who is sitting in the room, is the matter of the inner organisation of Paltalk.
Maybe constant and persistent warnings and closings such rooms, will have positive effects.

Thank you for all the comments here. I have been watching this discussion with interest. I see a number of problems that your identifying.

Abusive room names . A room name that disparages a group or individual should be addressed to a help room when you see the room active. Help should always pass those on to a co-admin and after confirming the information given a co-admin will take action to close the room or change the room name to a positive one. This will take time because our philosphy is to educate users rather than ban.

Rooms which exceed their ratings. If the room is rated G and is engaging in swearing and or sexual activity , the room number needs to be given to the help rooms for a co-admin to check. This too will take time for the same reason as above.

Rooms which have titles conforming to our terms of service may have content which does not conform to your ideals and values. This is where we encourage you to take responsibilty for your Paltalk experience and choose a room which suits you better. This allows you to have a positive experience and also other to have the experience they want.

Over the years we have developed tools and options which enable users to insulate themselves from abuse. I recommend all user go to the Pal list , file , the setup prefernces then go to privacy. Here you can choose to create the environment which suits you , from a completely open list to a completely private one and an option which gives you the best of both worlds and allows im's from anyone and stops file transfers and invites from those you don't know.

If there is a user who is abusing the experience of others by repeatedly changing names to harrass or constantly creating bad rooms etc then its important that these too are taken to a help room to be addressed by co-admin.

Having said this its also important to understand that we are not policemen and if the issue is one that needs to be addressed legaly in the real world we can assist if the proper approach from law enforcement agencies is undertaken.

We too are looking for people who love Paltalk and have multiple language skills. We welcome any user who thinks they have something to contribute to the Paltalk community to help in the help lobbies at the discretion of the helper in the room.

Hi PaltalkAdminA, Good to C Ur Reply :D , Don't Know if You Remember me or not, I got Helps from you few times in these type of related Matters, You helped me, You are Always Respective for me. To be a Paltalk Head Your Decision is Perfect and Accepted.

I always try for to make paltalk better. In Your Reply I saw Some of Factors Which would Go Positively Soon. To be an old User (Not Much Old Just Fully 5 yrs of my Life), and the User who think paltalk my 1st Home, Its my Right , Duty and Responsibility to make Suggestions and Requests. I did not Suggest something different, I just suggested for Expansion of Resources. Now Join me as an User and Get my feelings.

I saw Paltalk Banned lots of users because they were using some Anti Paltalk Program Things, But Why not ban to Those Users who are Doing Continue Anti Users activity [Paltalk is from Users], Yes I know Paltalk Growing When i Joined paltalk in 2005, That time as i can feel Users Average Numbers was just 30,000-35,000. and Now Average Numbers is 60,000-65000. Near about double in Just 5 Years(Wonder). Paltalk's Quality is Respective. I Just Thinking Paltalk Could Increase This Average Number just by Some Improvements (Users Who Left Or Who Shifting Because of Anti Users Activities against Them).

Posted By: PaltalkAdminAThis will take time because our philosphy is to educate users rather than ban.

Yes Accepted, But There are Some Extreme Abusers, They don't have any work Other Than daily abusing, they just came to abuse here, and Even not a day was here when they did not abuse, Even They did not leave Paltalk Help Lobbies from their abuse. They use to abuse Red's On Mic, They Use abusive Texts in Help Lobbies, and Red's Can not take Action because they can not understand their language (I Informed lots of times to Red's when some user using abusive Text in my Known Language). Help Lobbies are G Rated, Would It not be good if any Multi Language known full time Staff stay In Help Lobbies, Which Will helpful for to keep Help Lobbies Clean and Even Who would be Helpful to close any abusive room name or to change that room name to positive name Fast after getting Complaint. [One Bad Apple Can Adversely Affect Other Apples in Same Tray]

Posted By: PaltalkAdminARooms which have titles conforming to our terms of service may have content which does not conform to your ideals and values.

Posted By: PaltalkAdminA
If there is a user who is abusing the experience of others by repeatedly changing names to harrass or constantly creating bad rooms etc then its important that these too are taken to a help room to be addressed by co-admin.

Accepted !
But Which Content Cleared that also Taking more than 1 hour in taking action after Complaint. One User Complaint about abusive room on her name, It took more than 1 hour and 30 minutes in closing that room. Same room took again more than 1 hour in closing After Complaint. Same Room was Opening again and again Even in another Next Second after closing. One Of Red [ - - - - - - (palsupport) ] Gave dot to Victim because she was joining Help lobby and was complaining (With Fresh Room Number Of Related Room In Procedure of Complaint) about same room which opened again on her name. and When she joined another help room, that Red reached in that help lobby and said to another Red not to Accept Complaint because the matter already dealt, At least One Girl Red could understand Other girls problem which is related to abusive room on her name, I Know This is not Regular, would be just Exceptional Case, I just not able to digest it, Because it happened in front of me.

I did not say to work as policemen, but it could be part of Management and Control Which may depend on Alert.

Posted By: PaltalkAdminAWe too are looking for people who love Paltalk and have multiple language skills. We welcome any user who thinks they have something to contribute to the Paltalk community to help in the help lobbies at the discretion of the helper in the room.

Thanks It would Help In Improving Your services.
d company dubai Go Ahead, I know You have Multi Languages Skill :-) All The BeST ;-)


My all Suggestions Of This Topic are Just part Of Improving Paltalk Positively. If these Suggestions Can not be applied, it would not Affect me Physical personally, But Yet I Gave my Huge time to make this Issue Clear from my side. Depend On You and Paltalk Staff How You going to deal with it. I read feeling of your Post and found some Positive Response, But I am Hoping Some More, I Hope You would Take Some More Positive Steps :)

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Dubai it is up to you as to how you wish to contribute and the time you want to commit but by all means make youself known to co-admin that you have that skill.

I agree with the forum that we have a shortage of both Urdu and Indian speakers , I encourage anyone with these languages to have a try in the help lobbies but of course there are no guarrentees.

Our Palhelp are vounteers and give great service most of the time however we all have our bad days and if you feel disatisfied with the response you got , then feel free to write an email to us about the help concerned and we can address any issues with them.

Any user must be warned before any restrictions are placed on their account. We usualy will remove the problem after this has been issued and allow users to make the corrections we requested. This is why your friends abusive room reappeared . I understand the frustration for the victim when the offender refuses to heed the warning and persists , however if it was you who had got upset and created a bad title for whatever reason you would want us to give you the opportunity to change. We will only restrict a users experience when we have exhausted all avenues for change.

Sometimes an issue that seems cut and dried to you , may need a lot more discussion , as to which is the best way to address it. At all times we try to default to peoples right to speak freely but having said this we also are conscious to make sure that one persons freedom does not impinge on another users Paltalk experience.

Often its been said to me by many users give me your red name for 10 minutes and I will sort my category out . It is an illusion to think banning people is always the correct solution to the problem you see . Sometimes by negotiation we are much more effective in creating long term solutions to your issue.

This is not an attempt to avoid taking responsibility for abusive users but rather an attempt to help you understand the processes we go through to make sure the issue is dealt with fairly on all sides and to affect solutions that will end up resolving the problem not aggravating it further.

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Your Idea is good, But Paltalk Admin's have to care about Help Lobbies, If they will make "Indian Help Lobby", Paltalk has to keep 1 Red who Know Indian Language to Control that room, which is not possible at this time. Freely it would not possible, As if someone is assisting in expected help lobby, and other uses are misbehaving, users are jumping, Then who will Control them, It may Create hurdle on Helping, and would not make good Impressing on Other users about help lobby. Temporary it could be handle but not regularly.

I want to make Aware about it that Paltalk started working On Solving This Issue, Thanks PaltalkAdminA and Simba For taking Appropriate and Suitable Action in Solving this problem, I am One of the Stair for solve this Problem, Now I am Part of Language Translation system, Will Try to Provide my services at my best, My Known Languages are In Order Hindi, English, Punjabi, Urdu which i can Understand, Any Red Admin Can Private Message Me any Time by Ignoring my 'Away Status Messages'. Special Thanks to Simba, Who took Initiative for solving this issue, and Provided me Opportunity to Help Solving in this problem. Any User Who wanna to be part of this Language Translation System, Make Yourself Known to Red's In Help Lobbies, Make Them confident about Your true help, and Be Part of it.

I Was Not Expecting Popup of this message, So had to Make Clear, I Think Everything Cleared By Result Of This Topic, Things Going in Positive way, May be this topic can get Close. For related to Supportive Things it would seem better to create New Topic. :)Download Bug Report Ban

Hello Sandy n Simba.. Thanks for the post. Well its koool to see that Paltalk is working on this issue and steps taken by sandy and others will surely improve the browsing experience on Paltalk. Well as per my side I too will be there to assist Red's anytime anywhere with my grip on languages like English, Hindi, Tamil, Marwari and Oriya. All our efforts are to make a clean, smooth and an enjoyable environment over here on Paltalk. We are working on it.

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Well said Jaihind.. Well here i want to mention again that we are going to help Red's not only at the time of abuse rooms opening but also when an Indian finds himself/herself hard to speak English with Red's and rather using his local/mother tongue to describe his query.

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Hello Mr Mikey... hope u going great. Well me and all my friends are always ready to redeem and extend the maximum help over here when needed, anytime and anywhere.

Thanks for making us feel that we are close to you and Paltalk.

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LolZz.. Jay .. The thing is such abusive nicks keep changing their nick names (here our Add, Block and Remove Process don't work with the new nicks) frequently and we get to know when they again abuse someone with the new nicks. They repeat this process as it takes only 2 minutes to get a new nick.Wanna Know More About Me... Click Here ---> d company dubai

Posted By: Jay ... When everyone stops responding to them and creating forum threads 35 posts BIG, then they will move on...

.. 36 Posts Now Jay :)
Oops 37 With This One. Any More? lol*** Take Care & Be Happy ***

Hello Everybody..

Posted By: sandy_M_4u2: Your Idea is good, But Paltalk Admin's have to care about Help Lobbies, If they will make "Indian Help Lobby", Paltalk has to keep 1 Red who Know Indian Language to Control that room, which is not possible at this time.

Well Sandy you are right. But the thing is what we all are doing here then. I mean to say if Paltalk feels that we can monitor Indian help lobby and can assist the Indian users in their local language, i would feel proud to do this. I would rather feel great if Paltalk feels me damm fit for the post of Red in Indian Category, I would surely give my 100% in the lobby to assist them in every possible way. Am sure you too have the capability of handling such rooms.

Thanks.

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Hello Mr. VJ ...

I fully believe on your words what you have presented in your post. Sometimes situations just get solved automatically when they are not responded. When matters like opened abuse rooms or someone abusing in the room, gets automatically wave out if the respective person ignores them and still enjoy everything in front of the abusers.

Well the case get worse when its related to Indians. Here on Indian categories you can regularly see abuse rooms opened frequently. Even you close them with the help of Red Admins each and every time, even you ignore such rooms or slang's pasted in the room on your name , but the process of opening such rooms and such slang's pasting doesn't stop. We Indians are very much sensitive regarding such acts and never wants such allegations and such abuse languages written on our name. Even we ignore them for a time being, such craps never stop to create abuse rooms to humiliate the person whom they want to show down.

Last but not least.. We should take some initiative to stop such things happening over here on Paltalk instead of ignoring them and sitting silent in front of the screen viewing the abused rooms opened on our name or in the name of our friend.

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Thanks Sandy, really I was thinking the same way. wihtout reading from top to botton.some users are just replying/posting. i did not write on this topic again as it was sorted out already.. :)
Thanks to paltalk for gr8 support and understanding on users, it's given us more courage to write again..higher level of motivation and customer satisfaction will feel pleasure on all users.. I think we all are satisfied with Paltalk admins reply on all topics, except VF's :P
here everyone knows it. Paltalk is not police, its web based program.. we never ask paltalk to act like police. we are just here to give feedback/suggestions and to support paltalk, because we love Paltalk. it should be written in nice way I think :) and thanks to all users for participating on this and trying to make Paltalk on top of the world. (many recent replies are same as above already replied by other admins, b4 going to reply on a topic..please better if we can spend few minutes and read top to bottom first)

Thanks~ Reliable people, they do what they say ~

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